Fathoms Deep: A Black Sails Podcast

Welcome to our in-depth look at the narrative and character development of the epic Starz series Black Sails.
To listen spoiler free, start at the beginning (bottom of the page) of the episode by episode discussion (each of our episode titles refers to the episode of Black Sails covered) and listen to the interviews as they appear chronologically to hear cast and producer insights relevant to that point in the show.

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FD 78: Claire Willett – Part 2!

The continuation of our conversation with Claire Willett. Liz left us and Daphne and Claire just kept on going. We talk about art, the Black Sails finale, emotional truths, and fandom.
Spoilers for all seasons of Black Sails!

FD77: Claire Willett, Death, and the Sasspants Cutiepie, Part 1 of 2

We were bound to come back to talking about the ending of Black Sails some day, and we are so happy to do so with our fabulous guest, writer Claire Willett. We talk about good deaths for female characters, our love of Max, the finale, and the Sasspants Cutiepie (guess which character that is)
Spoilers for all seasons of Black Sails!

FD 75: Talking Black Sails with Adam Serwer and Jon Steinberg

This week of Fathoms Deep, we are joined by Adam Serwer, staff writer for The Atlantic, and Jon Steinberg, Black Sails show runner and wrangler of pirates. We talk politics, history, Treasure Island, and Jon tells us his parrot head canon.
This episode dedicated to Robert Levine and his gentile encouragement.

FD74: Chatting with Anna-Louise Plowman about Mrs Hudson

This week on Fathoms Deep, we chat with Anna-Louise Plowman about the special space in which Mrs Hudson exists in the story of Black Sails. We talked about a very different face of civilization and how that perspective influences how we experience the world of of the pirates though very different eyes.

FD73: A Chat with Toby Stephens

This week on Fathoms Deep, our Captain was worth the wait. Daphne chats with Toby Stephens about leadership, moments of honesty, being Flint and also being not-Flint since Black Sails has ended. Spoilers for all 4 seasons.

FD72: Black Sails Commentary Track – Episode I

Our very first Black Sails Commentary Track! The ladies watched Black Sails Episode I (1.01) and talked the whole time. There are Spoilers here for all Four Seasons of Black Sails so this is best to have us talk over a rewatch rather than a first watch. We will do commentary tracks for all of the episodes of Black Sails for our Patreon Subscribers – some with fun guests!
Support us on Patreon to hear them all as they come out.

FD71: Daphne visits with Zethu Dlomo in New York

Daphne and Zethu finally met in person when Zethu came to New York for her new film, Mandela’s Gun, to win 3 awards at the Harlem International Film Festival. The recorded in a hotel room audio isn’t great but the conversation is. We discuss Zethu’s two films and of course the last half of Season 4 of Black Sails.

CIJS 15: Sense & Sensibility with Louise Barnes

This week on Can I Just Say, we discuss Jane Austen’s novel, Sense and Sensibility, with Black Sails actress, Louise Barnes… thereby creating possibly the best intersection of beloved stories ever? We discuss the charming Dashwood sisters, the elusive narrator, and our common love of Mrs Jennings.

FD 70: Black Sails Storytime with Toby Schmitz

This week on Fathoms Deep, we are lucky enough to have a second visit with Toby Schmitz to discuss Season 4 of Black Sails and the Rat that got the whole Damned Boulangerie. 

FD 69: Sympathy for Woodes Rogers – A chat with Luke Roberts

This week on Fathoms Deep, we discuss both historical and Black Sails versions of Woodes Rogers  with Luke Roberts. We establish that Rogers is complex and also absolutely a pirate and give us a minute to adjust our rings nonchalantly while we prove it.

FD 68: Black Sails & Literature with Natasha Simonova

This week on Fathoms Deep, Daphne chats with Natasha Simonova, a Fellow and Lecturer in English Literature at Exeter College, University of Oxford. We discuss the books within the story of Black Sails, other books of the period, and the fact that Thomas Hamilton’s favorite color was absolutely and undoubtably Blue.

FD 67: Hopes and Dreams for Abigail – a chat with Meganne Young

This week on Fathoms Deep, Daphne chats with Meganne Young about everyone’s favorite – Abigail Ashe. We discuss pianos (sorry), pirate culture shock, and how powerful the words ‘good’ and ‘stop’ can be.
Also, we choose our own Abigail adventures because we miss her!

Introducing Our New Podcast, Can I just Say – Master and Commander

Welcome to our new Podcast, Can I Just Say, in which the ladies and guests will give the Fathoms Deep treatment to other stories. In honor of our tall ship lovers, we started the new podcast by covering Master and Commander. Enjoy and join us by subscribing to Can I Just Say.

FD 66: Fathoms Deep Live with Zach McGowan at Dragon Con

This week on Fathoms Deep, nothing like rum at 11:30am with a Proper Pirate. The ladies went to Dragon Con and Zach spoke to us about who Charles was to him, gave us lessons on how to radio, and many a potential hashtag was born (but no pirate babies) #WhosYourPirateDaddy #EveryoneDoZachMcGowan

FD 65: Fathoms Deep Listener Q&A

This week on Fathoms Deep, we had listeners ask the questions. We discussed what we would do and who we would be in the world of Black Sails, the perfect pirate dinner party, and our amazing experiences podcasting about this beautiful story. Thank you to all of our listeners. Enjoy a peek behind our curtain.

FD 63: Black Sails and Mythology with Jon Steinberg

This week on Fathoms Deep, we are joined by Jon Steinberg to talk about the mythology of the Pirate Titans, who is in the labyrinth, archetypes, and finding an emotion and riding it for all it’s worth (spoiler warning: there will be crack pot theories)

FD 62: Interview with Black Sails producer Nina Jack

This week on Fathoms Deep, Daphne chats with Black Sails Supervising Producer Nina Jack about special effects buffets, the challenges of mist control, and many other aspects of making our favorite story come to life.

FD 61: Black Sails Character Study: Max

This week on Fathoms Deep, we sit down to chat about our love of Max – Queen of Nassau and preserver of hats. We discuss Max’s role in the story of Black Sails, and her place in our hearts.

FD 59: Interview with Luke Arnold (Post-Finale)

This week on Fathoms Deep, we celebrate our one year anniversary with the gift of another chat with Luke Arnold. We discuss what was beyond choice, Silver taking his ball and going home, and parrots (or just the one parrot)

FD 58: Interview with Jon Steinberg (Post-Finale)

This week on Fathoms Deep, we have another lovely chat with Jon Steinberg, co creator of Black Sails, about Season 4, backstories, a pirate show about domesticity, and using the Greek Myth Instagram filter.

FD 57: The Super Black Sails Round Table

This week on Fathoms Deep, we have all the guests. The ladies are joined by Lauren Sarner, Andrew Dyce, and Alastair Stephens to discuss themes from all 4 seasons of Black Sails and it was a whole lot of fun….. as in the what does Black Sails have to say about the nature of Darkness kind of fun.

FD 56: Black Sails Season 4 Wrap with Lauren Sarner

This week on Fathoms Deep, our last season wrap with Lauren. We manage somehow not to talk about Silver the whole time… We also discuss Flint’s speech, how the Creators outdid our best fan fic ideas, and whether Jack and Silver became pen pals after the last episode.

FD 55: Interview with Craig Jackson and Lise Slabber

This week on Fathoms Deep, we sooth your broken hearts with the best thing ever – Craig and Lise join us to talk FeatherDelle, riffing with Toby Schmitz, costumes, bread knives and of course, Tit Curtains…..

FD 54: Episode XXXVIII

This week on Fathoms Deep, the most beautiful ending Proper Podcasters could hope for. We discuss truth and stories and oars and shovels and dragons….. and we have a special (drunken) pirate name session with two of our favorites from Black Sails.

FD 52: Episode XXXVII

This week on Fathoms Deep, we discuss things falling apart but with really beautiful lighting and sound effects. Searching for humor here…. blink blink blink, Featherstone – that’s all we’ve got.

FD 51: Interview With Lukas Ettlin

Special Episode – We had Lukas Ettlin back for a second chat about shooting epic ship battles, blowing up Nassau, how much air Luke Arnold really needs underwater, and embroidery?
Lukas is a cinematographer, director and producer on Black Sails. His expertise is clearly broad and overreaching. And there may be mention of a goat – seems to have become a theme for us

FD 50: Episode XXXVI

This week on Fathoms Deep: In which Daphne only sort of breaks her vow not to make predictions and Liz dreams of a living in a house boat on Skeleton Island.
Also, all hail Idele – defender of friends and slicer of bread.

FD 49: Interview with Hannah New

The ladies had a nice long chat with Hannah about Eleanor Guthrie, Hangry Pirates, and our dream of a choose your own adventure book about Eleanor written by Toby Schmitz.
Prepare yourselves to maybe feel something for Eleanor as Daphne always has…

FD 48: Episode XXXV

This week on Fathoms Deep, we go to Philadelphia to have a giant and well deserved dose of Jack Rackham to heal our broken hearts. Pirate Groupies 4 ever.
Also, Grandma Guthrie is killer and we are in love.

FD 47: Interview with Tom Hopper

In which we discover (to no one’s surprise) that Tom Hopper is delightful
We discuss the Black Sails Cinnamon Roll Quotient, Billy’s Inner Darkness, and the Walrus crew love triangle…. no, not that one.

FD 46: Episode XXXIV

This week on Fathoms Deep, we discuss chock-a-block threesomes, get quite heated about Woodes Rogers, and the return of Jannax, kind of…

FD 45: Interview with Zach McGowan

Special Episode – In which we visit (virtually) with Zach McGowan, talk Black Sails, go for a beer run, and he shows us his sword… Also, his Zach McGowan impression is almost as good as that of Toby Schmitz.

FD 44: Interview With Zethu Dlomo

Daphne managed to keep her cool (more or less) in the presence of royalty. We discuss the looks Madi gives pirates, tethers and love, and how inviting someone as big as Billy in can rock the boat…. And also, the looks Madi gives pirates, because seriously.

FD 43: Episode XXXIII

This week on Fathoms Deep, we ask if we would be enough and then maybe get slapped around some for thinking out loud.... We will busy ourselves seeming unconcerned from now on. You can buy Fathoms Deep jewelry!  www.daphneolive.com/fathomsdeep Leave us a message!...

FD 42: Episode XXXII

This week on Fathoms Deep, we discuss how everyone should just listen to the women already, Billy the surly teen, and how Flint and Silver plan to parent the shit out of Nassau…. until Flint has other plans.

FD 41: “Daphne Was Right” with Alastair Stephens

Special Episode, in which we reward Alastair Stephens, captain of podcasts at storywonk.com, for his successful pirate binge with his very own seat on our ship and he admits that Daphne was right all along about Black Sails.

FD 40: Episode XXXI

This week on Fathoms Deep, we discuss darkness and madness, an awesome horse dismount and The King is Dead, Long live the King…

FD 39: Episode XXX

This week on Fathoms Deep, we discuss the many meanings of a bird. And dinner. And the shit that this island makes people do.

FD 37: Interview with Toby Schmitz (& Jack Rackham)

This week on Fathoms Deep, we are delighted to say that we got to chat with Toby Schmitz, with a few appearances from Jack as well. We discuss which Shakespearean character Jack may be, Jack's fighting style, and Teachamania. You can buy Fathoms Deep jewelry!...

FD 36: The Sandbox of Shared Themes with Andrew Dyce

This week on Fathoms Deep, we have a special guest - Andrew Dyce (aka Cabin Boy) and we discuss the Sandbox of Shared Themes as well as the relative hotness of Billy, Silver..... and Mapleton. @AndrewBDyce on twitter You can find him on ScreenRant.com and the Jacobite...

FD 35: Interview with Jonathan E Steinberg

This week on Fathoms Deep, we have an extra special treat. A peek behind the curtain with Jon Steinberg, 1/2 of the Black Sails Creators. We discuss the writing process, character backstories, when Jack Rackham is most fun to write, and yet again, staring into Flint….

FD 34: Season 3 Wrap with Lauren Sarner

This week on Fathoms Deep, Lauren Sarner joins us again to discuss Season 3 of Black Sails. We discuss our favorite things and have a Season 4 Prediction Game going! You can see all of Lauren's Black Sails articles here:...

FD 33: Interview with Luke Arnold

This week on Fathoms Deep, we have a chat with Luke Arnold about Silver’s off screen gossip sessions with Rackham, about stomping, and about what it is like to stare into Flint (and need a beer after).

FD 32: Episode XXVIII

This week on Fathoms Deep, we discuss being liked, being feared, and being underestimated. lets hang out at a campfire with Flint and Silver.... You can buy Fathoms Deep jewelry!  www.daphneolive.com/fathomsdeep Leave us a message! 405-67FLINT (yes, we said Flint)...

FD 31: Episode XXVII

This week on Fathoms Deep, we discuss warnings and welcomes and that thing that broke our hearts (you know what we are talking about - don't make us say it) You can buy Fathoms Deep jewelry!  www.daphneolive.com/fathomsdeep Listen to Liz' new podcast with her best...

FD 30: Episode XXVI

This week on Fathoms Deep, we discuss listening when Madi speaks and dreaming about the whole damn boulangerie.... oh, and Vane does something truly badass. You can buy Fathoms Deep jewelry!  www.daphneolive.com/fathomsdeep Listen to Liz' new podcast with...

FD 29: Episode XXV

This week on Fathoms Deep, we discuss villains, and chairs, and we have a long fucking memory. Coming soon! Fathoms Deep jewelry - www.daphneolive.com/fathomsdeep Leave us a message! 405-67FLINT (yes, we said Flint) Follow us on Twitter! @BlackSailsCast Find us on...

FD 28: Episode XXIV

This week on Fathoms Deep, we soldiered through to the end and got the gist of it…

FD 27: Episode XXIII

Episode XXIII – This week on Fathoms Deep….. We are Nassau.
We discuss opening doors and bringing it all down.

FD 26: Episode XXII

This week on Fathoms Deep, we have come to far to go back and we don’t know that we have any lies left in us.

FD 25: Episode XXI

This Week on Fathoms Deep, we discuss daddies, the horrible calm after the storm, and mythos goulash. Season 3 Blu Ray giveaway - email us your fan fic, fan art or any other fan creation to show your love of Black Sails by Nov 8 to be entered in the drawing for the...

FD 24: Interview with Lukas Ettlin

The ladies had a lovely chat with Lukas Ettlin, Director of Episodes 2.09, 3.02 (the storm) and 4.01 and Cinematographer from Seasons 1 and 2 of Black Sails. We discuss what he put the actors through, jet engines, and crazy sets constructions including Giant Pirate...

FD 23: Episode XX

This week on Fathoms Deep, we discuss the strangest reunion ever and, well, a very big storm.

FD 22: Episode XIX

This week on Fathoms Deep: Thank you Black Sails, we have no notes. Also, Liz taps into her inner theater nerd as we check in with the new shifts in the sands of Nassau. Leave us a message! 405-67FLINT (yes, we said Flint) Follow us on Twitter! @BlackSailsCast Find us...

FD 21: Daphne & the Pirates at New York Comic Con

Special Episode! NOTE: SPOILERS FOR SEASON 1-3. Daphne is now a Proper Podcaster. She went to New York Comic Con and ended up spending the afternoon with the cast and show runners of Black Sails. Her story + clips from her Con coverage and the Panel.

FD 20: Season 2 Wrap with Lauren Sarner

This week on Fathoms Deep, we invited Lauren Sarner back for our Season 2 wrap (and drinking game) Lauren's articles (Season 3 spoilers are in some articles) Lauren's article on Black Sails and...

FD 19: Episode XVIII

This week on Fathoms Deep, we discuss our target... and it is whatever's left. Leave us a message! 405-67FLINT (yes, we said Flint) Follow us on Twitter! @BlackSailsCast Find us on Facebook! Support us on Patreon! E-mail us at...

FD 18: Episode XVII

This week on Fathoms Deep, we discuss reunions, proper pirates, and that Damn Clock! Follow us on Twitter! @BlackSailsCast Find us on Facebook! Support us on Patreon! E-mail us at...

FD 17: Episode XVI

This week on Fathoms Deep we discuss monsters, men, significant looks, and how sometimes when they shoot at you need to duck. See Liz read Sea Fever by John Masefield file-sep-18 Liz and Daphne are taking questions! Get your questions for the ladies in by 9/22 - tweet...

FD 16: Episode XV

This week on Fathoms Deep we discuss Anne's hat, Flint's cup, Silver's ideas about trust, and how Billy is kind of badass (but maybe needs a bath) Follow us on Twitter! @BlackSailsCast Find us on Facebook! Support us on Patreon! E-mail us at...

FD 15: Episode XIV

This week on Fathoms Deep, we discuss new plans, the important part of Billy's story, and Jack's first day of Pirate Captain School. Everyone should listen to the Hamilton soundtrack and then to Hamilton the Podcast at www.graphocast.com Follow us on...

FD 14: Episode XIII

This week on Fathoms Deep we discuss how our hearts are broken.... The blog we mentioned with the amazing analysis of the art in Black Sails http://sagestreet.tumblr.com/blacksailsmeta Storywonk - aka the fabulous world of the most fun podcasts where Liz and Daphne...

FD 13: Episode XII

This week on Fathoms Deep we discuss good men, pardons, and what can change in a week in Max's bed. Follow us on Twitter! @BlackSailsCast Find us on Facebook! Support us on Patreon! E-mail us at...

FD 12: Episode XI

This week on Fathoms Deep, we discuss shifting sands, public reconciliation and what Flint's demons don't look or sound like. With a few breaks for serious pirate appreciation. And dimples..... Link to the Twitter conversation between Zach McGowan and Toby Schmitz...

FD 11: Episode X

This week on Fathoms Deep, we discuss very different ways of winning one's place back on the crew, the scariest of pirates, and how Jack Rackham is the absolute best. Follow us on Twitter! @BlackSailsCast Find us on Facebook! Support us on Patreon! E-mail us at...

FD 10: Episode IX

This week on Fathoms Deep, we finally (finally!) start the discussion of Flint's past and learn that it is very important to be specific when you ask for volunteers. Follow us on Twitter! @BlackSailsCast Find us on Facebook! Support us on Patreon! E-mail us at...

FD 9: Season I Wrap-Up with Lauren Sarner

This week on Fathoms Deep, we see where the story of a Spaniard named Vasquez has taken us so far with our special guest, Lauren Sarner, who covers Black Sails for inverse.com and brought us little treats from Toby Schmitz (we love you Toby as much as we love Jack....

FD 8: Episode VIII

This week on Fathoms Deep, we discuss our heartbreak, how the sea swallows us whole, and the virtues of shifting sand. We have arrived at the season 1 finale and there is a stormy night ahead of us! Follow us on Twitter! @BlackSailsCast Find us on Facebook! Support us...

FD 7: Episode VII

This week on Fathoms Deep we discuss how exhausting it can be to believe in Flint, how proud we are of Vane, and answer questions about Randall with more questions. Follow us on Twitter! @BlackSailsCast Find us on Facebook! Support us on Patreon! E-mail us at...

FD 6: Episode VI

This week on Fathoms Deep we discuss how you should never ever underestimate the women of Black Sails, and how incredibly badass Flint is as he looks down on, well, everyone. Follow us on Twitter! @BlackSailsCast Find us on Facebook! Support us on Patreon! E-mail us...

FD 5: Episode V

This week on Fathoms Deep, we discuss how some captains swear and fight to raise t'gallants while others peacefully concern themselves with China plate. We also learn that listening to John Silver is generally a good idea! Follow us on Twitter! @BlackSailsCast Find us...

FD 4: Episode IV

This week on Fathoms Deep, Liz and Daphne discuss the shifting sands of allegiance in Nassau and ask how it is that the most feared pirate captain in the high seas learned to spice and glaze a pig? Follow us on Twitter! @BlackSailsCast Find us on Facebook! Support us...

FD 3: Episode III

This week on Fathoms Deep, Liz and Daphne ask the big question "Who is Mrs Barlow", and enjoy discussing how clever quartermasters manage their sometimes unruly Captains. Follow us on Twitter! @BlackSailsCast Find us on Facebook! Support us on Patreon! E-mail us at...

FD 2: Episode II

This week on Fathoms Deep, Liz and Daphne discuss the big themes and happenings in the second episode of the Starz show Fathoms Deep. Follow us on Twitter! @BlackSailsCast Find us on Facebook! Support us on Patreon! E-mail us at...

FD 1: Episode I

This week on Fathoms Deep, Liz and Daphne introduce some of their favorite Black Sails characters and tease the big show themes to come. Follow us on Twitter! @BlackSailsCast Find us on Facebook! Support us on Patreon! E-mail us at...

Fathoms Deep: Introduction

An in depth look at the narrative and character development of the epic Starz series Black Sails by two of the show's biggest fans. Follow us on Twitter! @BlackSailsCast Find us on Facebook! Support us on Patreon! E-mail us at...